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Barcelona v Real Madrid – Messi v Ronaldo – Great!

Graham Fisher in Editorial, General Soccer News, La Liga 28 Nov 2010

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Who's the best? - who cares?!

Tomorrow night sees the latest shoot-out between Barcelona and Real Madrid at the Camp Nou. The two teams have become a little like Celtic and Rangers in Scotland in that they are almost certain to finish first and second are a whole lot better than all the others in their league.

Cross

Before fans of the rest get cross with me it is worth pointing out that after just twelve games the two of them are already seven points clear of the rest and have only lost one game between them. In five of the last six seasons they have finished first and second. (In the other season Barcelona slipped all the way to third!)

It is a tough one to call this season as it always is, but the Mourinho factor and the new found defensive steel discovered at Real Madrid maybe gives them more of a chance against the awesome attacking threat of Barcelona than they have had over the past couple of seasons.

Debate

Another issue, as well as who is best out of the two sides, that will again come to the fore is the perennial debate about who is best out of Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo.

Everyone has an opinion about which player is the better one but I think it is an interesting, but fairly pointless, argument. Both players are a joy to watch and produce displays of breathtaking brilliance that most others could only dream of.

Exploits

Take a look at the goal scoring exploits of the two men below.

Lionel Messi:
– 22 goals in 17 games for Barcelona this season
– 54 goals in 48 games for Barcelona in 2010
– Has scored in nine consecutive games for Barca
– In last five seasons (this season last), has scored: 17, 16, 38, 47, 22

Cristiano Ronaldo:
– 16 goals in 18 games for Real Madrid this season
– 38 goals in 42 games for Real Madrid in 2010
– Has scored 14 goals in 12 La Liga games this term
– In last five seasons (first three with Manchester United), has scored: 23, 42, 26, 33, 18

Now you have read them, read them again! They are both astonishing.

Hat-trick

Both players warmed up for tomorrow’s big game with a hat-trick last time out in La Liga. They couldn’t have set things up any better.

So, which team is best and which player is best?

I’d go for Barcelona and Ronaldo. No, Real Madrid and Messi. No…who cares, I’m just going to love watching it!

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Graham Fisher


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  • Ayman

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    Lionel Messi have more talents than all of the players in the world and Barcelona are gonna win because they have alot of good players like David Villa,Andres Iniesta,Xavi Hernandez,Francesc Fabregas, Gerrard Pique,and more

  • Ayman

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    Barcelona is gonna win because have Lionel Messi which is the best player in the whole world.

  • f.psycho

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    well you may say laliga is not intresting watching i agree with you but the truth is la lig has to do with the nity grity of football techniques and the football brain strength etc…. Though that is not what the tread is all about we talking about who the best is no wonder no team in the world can be beat barcelona when they are realy prepared. May i remind us that messi is the the world best 2009 and 2010

  • TIM S./NY

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    BOTH MESSI AND RONALDO ARE GREAT PLAYERS..IM GLAD WE’VE ESTABLISHED THAT.
    THE ONLY WAY TO PROVE THEY ARE THE GREATEST CLUBS …THEY HAVE TO BEAT THE GREATEST CLUBS…AND THATS TO BE SEEN.THE THING IS LA LIGA SUCKS…YOU COULDNT PAY ME TO WATCH ANY OTHER GAME IN LA LIGA…SO HOW DO YOU SAY THEYRE THE GREATEST??? THE EPL DOESNT HAVE THE GREATEST PLAYERS,BUT THE TEAMS ARE GREAT TO WATCH, THATS THE DIFFERENCE MY FRIENDS.

  • Justus

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    How long are we going to keep delibrating on this matter of who’s the best, look, we should forget about this statistics we bring up to check on who the best is, this question is best answered by goal keepers and defenders and not people who judge based on centiments and who they feel should…. Sorry may i remind you that even CR7’S GOAL KEEPER CONFESSED MESSI TO BE THE BETTER PLAYER, and that is a fact hate it or love it.

  • Justus

    0 0

    How long are we going keep delibrating on this matter of who’s the best, look, we should forget about this statistics we are bring up to check on who the best is, this question is best answered by goal keepers and defenders and not people who judge based on centiments and who they feel should…. Sorry may i remind you that even CR7’S GOAL KEEPER CONFESSED MESSI TO BE THE BETTER PLAYER, and that is a fact hate it or love it.

  • 1234

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    Real Madrid is already destroying everyone else in La Liga; whether or not they continue to gel won’t separate them even more because they already have separated themselves. It’s just that Barcelona is sooooo good that it doesn’t matter how much better Real is than the 3rd and 4th placed teams – Barcelona is still the best team no matter how much Real beats up on everyone else.

    Has anyone else noticed, Barcelona wins most of their La Liga games at like 60% of their ability going on cruise control. They step it up big time when they need to – the way they relentlessly attacked Real Madrid with speed instead of just patiently building was unlike the way they’ve played just about any other game this season. Barca wins most of their games comfortably at considerably less than their best, as if they don’t want to over exert themselves, whereas Real enjoys beating up on people and tries their hardest every game. This also helps Barca in the Champions League because teams like Chelsea and Arsenal and ManU are going to war each week in a very physical league, whereas Barca is able to manage themselves.

  • the_real_deal

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    That’s right Brad, it will be even more two-horse and thats not what we need.

    We need the phase that’s crept into the EPL (the past two seasons) to cross over to La Liga.

  • Brad

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    @Robert, you screwed any argument anyone else could have come up with to go against that.

    @Thabo, you’re right about Real Madrid’s team needing to gel and get chemistry going. Once they do though, I think La Liga will be even more two horse race.

  • Thabo Caves

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    Why are you guys still debating? Barcelona destroyed Real Madrid so the they are obviously the better team and Messi is definitely the better player. And don’t give me this about how much better messi’s supporting cast is. Real Madrid has a great team around Ronaldo, they just need time to gel and get to know each other and play as a team.

  • the_real_deal

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    Well put, Robert. I couldn’t have said it any better. Messi is out of this world!

  • Robert

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    Messi – Ronaldo If you take away the goals scored by Ronaldo of penalties and free kicks his numbers are not so great, wile Messi’s goals are at the end of a dash against three and five defenders.
    Messi does not “dive” every time someone blows air against him, Messi does not stomp and cries if he misses, and most of all Messi does not shuffles his feet to confuse, he just goes by with speed and incredible ball control.
    There is no comparing these two, one is great, the other is just phenomenal.

  • the_real_deal

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    He will run all the way across the pitch , its in his nature really.

  • abdulrahim

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    barceona is favorite

  • chris

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    Barca won and they deserved it, ronaldo messi debate kinda up for grabs they are two different players both amazing. As for them destroying the EPL, i think you guys should calm down. The epl is alot more physical, and after seasons playing in england, dont be so sure they could best chelsea and man utd, even after such an amazing performance the other night. Dont forget ronaldo already played in the epl, accomplished everything possible, and is now trying to conquer a new frontier, messi has been there for a while

  • Brad

    0 0

    Knowing how the Annoying One is, of course he will.

  • Chelsea FC Fan

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    CR is a more complete player…

    Messi is smarter tho…and plays alongside the best supporting cast in the world…yea – there’s a little hate there, but I have a lot of respect for Barca…i’d like to see Walcott and Messi trade places…I bet you Barca wouldn’t miss a beat…not that Walcott s/b compared to Messi – i’m just saying, Iniesta and Xavi will make Walcott look like Messi…

    Barca is a better team by far in terms of how effective they play together…do they have better talent? In some cases yes, in some no. These teams are evenly matched to say one has an upperhand over the other. The only upper-hand is Barca’s who has played together longer.

    Mourinho will be back to settle the score…and when he does, I don’t condone it, but he will rub it in as deep as he can…

  • nicolas

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    real madrid va invinge pe barcelona

  • Fantastic footballer messi

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    Messi is great

  • Fantastic footballer messi

    0 0

    Barcilona will win

  • gloria

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    both of them are great footballers. Though i think messi is more amazing. If they were in Epl it would truly still be a two horse race. May the best team win,

  • the_real_deal

    0 0

    Best player between the two is Messi, he has natural talent.

    He hardly argues with the referee, his movement on and off the ball is effortless.

  • blaze

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    if barca and madrid came to th EPL they would turn it into a two horse race again coz they are the best teams world over

  • salah

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    La liga is a two horse race , but unlike the Rangers and the Celtics of Scotland who if they were playing in the EPL, they would probably be fighting relegation, Real Madrid and Barcelona make the EPL a two horse race as well, with Chelsea Manchester united and Arsenal being the Villareal, Valencia and Atletico Madrid of the liga

  • salah

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    La liga is a two horse race , but unlike the Rangers and the Celtics of Scotland who if they were playing in the EPL, they would probably be fighting relegation, Real Madrid and Barcelona make the EPL a two horse race as well, with Chelsea Manchester united and Arsenal being the Villareal, Valencia and Atletico Madrid of the liga

  • blaze

    0 0

    if barca and madrid came to th EPL they would turn it into a two horse race again coz they are the best teams world over

  • the_real_deal

    0 0

    Best player between the two is Messi, he has natural talent.

    He hardly argues with the referee, his movement on and off the ball is effortless.

  • gloria

    0 0

    both of them are great footballers. Though i think messi is more amazing. If they were in Epl it would truly still be a two horse race. May the best team win,

  • Fantastic footballer messi

    0 0

    Barcilona will win

  • Fantastic footballer messi

    0 0

    Messi is great

  • nicolas

    0 0

    real madrid va invinge pe barcelona

  • Chelsea FC Fan

    0 0

    CR is a more complete player…

    Messi is smarter tho…and plays alongside the best supporting cast in the world…yea – there’s a little hate there, but I have a lot of respect for Barca…i’d like to see Walcott and Messi trade places…I bet you Barca wouldn’t miss a beat…not that Walcott s/b compared to Messi – i’m just saying, Iniesta and Xavi will make Walcott look like Messi…

    Barca is a better team by far in terms of how effective they play together…do they have better talent? In some cases yes, in some no. These teams are evenly matched to say one has an upperhand over the other. The only upper-hand is Barca’s who has played together longer.

    Mourinho will be back to settle the score…and when he does, I don’t condone it, but he will rub it in as deep as he can…

  • Brad

    0 0

    Knowing how the Annoying One is, of course he will.

  • chris

    0 0

    Barca won and they deserved it, ronaldo messi debate kinda up for grabs they are two different players both amazing. As for them destroying the EPL, i think you guys should calm down. The epl is alot more physical, and after seasons playing in england, dont be so sure they could best chelsea and man utd, even after such an amazing performance the other night. Dont forget ronaldo already played in the epl, accomplished everything possible, and is now trying to conquer a new frontier, messi has been there for a while

  • abdulrahim

    0 0

    barceona is favorite

  • the_real_deal

    0 0

    He will run all the way across the pitch , its in his nature really.

  • Robert

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    Messi – Ronaldo If you take away the goals scored by Ronaldo of penalties and free kicks his numbers are not so great, wile Messi’s goals are at the end of a dash against three and five defenders.
    Messi does not “dive” every time someone blows air against him, Messi does not stomp and cries if he misses, and most of all Messi does not shuffles his feet to confuse, he just goes by with speed and incredible ball control.
    There is no comparing these two, one is great, the other is just phenomenal.

  • the_real_deal

    0 0

    Well put, Robert. I couldn’t have said it any better. Messi is out of this world!

  • Thabo Caves

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    Why are you guys still debating? Barcelona destroyed Real Madrid so the they are obviously the better team and Messi is definitely the better player. And don’t give me this about how much better messi’s supporting cast is. Real Madrid has a great team around Ronaldo, they just need time to gel and get to know each other and play as a team.

  • Brad

    0 0

    @Robert, you screwed any argument anyone else could have come up with to go against that.

    @Thabo, you’re right about Real Madrid’s team needing to gel and get chemistry going. Once they do though, I think La Liga will be even more two horse race.

  • the_real_deal

    0 0

    That’s right Brad, it will be even more two-horse and thats not what we need.

    We need the phase that’s crept into the EPL (the past two seasons) to cross over to La Liga.

  • 1234

    0 0

    Real Madrid is already destroying everyone else in La Liga; whether or not they continue to gel won’t separate them even more because they already have separated themselves. It’s just that Barcelona is sooooo good that it doesn’t matter how much better Real is than the 3rd and 4th placed teams – Barcelona is still the best team no matter how much Real beats up on everyone else.

    Has anyone else noticed, Barcelona wins most of their La Liga games at like 60% of their ability going on cruise control. They step it up big time when they need to – the way they relentlessly attacked Real Madrid with speed instead of just patiently building was unlike the way they’ve played just about any other game this season. Barca wins most of their games comfortably at considerably less than their best, as if they don’t want to over exert themselves, whereas Real enjoys beating up on people and tries their hardest every game. This also helps Barca in the Champions League because teams like Chelsea and Arsenal and ManU are going to war each week in a very physical league, whereas Barca is able to manage themselves.

  • Justus

    0 0

    How long are we going keep delibrating on this matter of who’s the best, look, we should forget about this statistics we are bring up to check on who the best is, this question is best answered by goal keepers and defenders and not people who judge based on centiments and who they feel should…. Sorry may i remind you that even CR7’S GOAL KEEPER CONFESSED MESSI TO BE THE BETTER PLAYER, and that is a fact hate it or love it.

  • Justus

    0 0

    How long are we going to keep delibrating on this matter of who’s the best, look, we should forget about this statistics we bring up to check on who the best is, this question is best answered by goal keepers and defenders and not people who judge based on centiments and who they feel should…. Sorry may i remind you that even CR7’S GOAL KEEPER CONFESSED MESSI TO BE THE BETTER PLAYER, and that is a fact hate it or love it.

  • TIM S./NY

    0 0

    BOTH MESSI AND RONALDO ARE GREAT PLAYERS..IM GLAD WE’VE ESTABLISHED THAT.
    THE ONLY WAY TO PROVE THEY ARE THE GREATEST CLUBS …THEY HAVE TO BEAT THE GREATEST CLUBS…AND THATS TO BE SEEN.THE THING IS LA LIGA SUCKS…YOU COULDNT PAY ME TO WATCH ANY OTHER GAME IN LA LIGA…SO HOW DO YOU SAY THEYRE THE GREATEST??? THE EPL DOESNT HAVE THE GREATEST PLAYERS,BUT THE TEAMS ARE GREAT TO WATCH, THATS THE DIFFERENCE MY FRIENDS.

  • f.psycho

    0 0

    well you may say laliga is not intresting watching i agree with you but the truth is la lig has to do with the nity grity of football techniques and the football brain strength etc…. Though that is not what the tread is all about we talking about who the best is no wonder no team in the world can be beat barcelona when they are realy prepared. May i remind us that messi is the the world best 2009 and 2010

  • Ayman

    0 0

    Barcelona is gonna win because have Lionel Messi which is the best player in the whole world.

  • Ayman

    0 0

    Lionel Messi have more talents than all of the players in the world and Barcelona are gonna win because they have alot of good players like David Villa,Andres Iniesta,Xavi Hernandez,Francesc Fabregas, Gerrard Pique,and more

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