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Eduardo raises the diving question again – what is the answer?

Graham Fisher in Editorial, General Soccer News 28 Aug 2009

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The issue of players diving, or ‘simulation’ as it seems to be called, has been brought back to the top of the agenda by the antics of Arsenal striker Eduardo in their Champions League qualifying win over Celtic.

Incident

The incident in question came with the second leg score at 0-0 after Arsenal had won the first leg 2-0. Midway through the first half the referee awarded Arsenal a penalty when Eduardo appeared to be brought down by Celtic keeper Artur Boruc. Eduardo got up, converted the penalty himself and Arsenal went on to win the game 3-1.

TV replays suggest that there was no contact made on Eduardo or at least, if there was, it was minimal and couldn’t possibly have caused the theatrical fall to the ground that followed.

Opinion about whether or not it was a dive is divided at around 50-50. That is half the people who have expressed an opinion are Arsenal fans and say it wasn’t and the other half are neutral observers who all say it was!

Sympathy

It is certainly a shame that Eduardo, who after suffering the most horrendous injury a couple of seasons ago had the sympathy of the entire footballing world, has now made himself something of a public enemy.

There is no doubt that Eduardo did not do anything that Cristiano Ronaldo, Steve Gerrard, Fernando Torres and many other players haven’t done but that does not make it acceptable.

UEFA have announced that they are going to investigate the incident and if he is found guilty of ‘simulation’ or as I like to call it, cheating, he could and should face a two match ban.

Agree

Everybody wants diving to be stamped out of the game. I don’t know anybody who thinks otherwise. The problem is that few people agree about how to do it.

Retrospective punishments to players such as that likely to be handed out to Eduardo are a start but they do not help the team that have been cheated.

Many people are calling once again for the fourth official to be able to use technology to assist the referee and watch a TV replay and tell the referee whether or not he is right. Others are calling for extra officials to assist such as the two additional referees trialled in the European under nineteen championships.

Uefa president Michel Platini believes additional assistant referees behind each goal line would combat diving:

“One day players will give up simulating because refs will see them. I am convinced that you have referees nearby, then you will stop this.”

Scottish FA chief executive Gordon Smith is a supporter of using technology:

“Last night’s incident also brings the whole issue of video evidence to the fore. I see no reason why we cannot use technology to assist referees. We need a serious debate on these issues. Everyone in football has a responsibility to set the right example to our youngsters. We can talk all we want about Fair Play campaigns, but taking action would be a much more powerful deterrent and would send the right message to players everywhere.”

Even Arsene Wenger accepted that the incident involving Eduardo probably asked more questions than it answered:

“I do not go as far to say Eduardo dived. He went down, for what reason I do not know. Having seen it again on television, it doesn’t look a penalty. I do not think he would have complained if the penalty was not given.”

So what is the answer? Retrospective punishments, video technology or extra officials?

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  • Chelsea FC Fan

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    I don’t get it – why did this get reviewed and acted on by UEFA? They just announced that Eduardo will be punished for 2 games…

    WTF was UEFA reviewing when Barca played Chelsea in the semi’s?

    Unfair unfair unfair…if Barca could walk away without retro-punishment, I think everyone else should too.

    And just for the record, i’ve watched Eduardo’s replay countless times and it looks obvious to me that he had his right-foot planted to jump…and it looks as if his right foot was tapped under the keeper when he leaped up as the keeper came sliding under him.

    Regardless, it seems idiotic to punish Eduardo after the fact, considering it has no effect on the outcome of the game anyway.

    I have no idea what was accomplished by UEFA’s decision to punish Eduardo.

  • Patrick

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    Don’t be so disrespectful to Gooners, Graham, its not like we’re United supporters! I don’t think anyone is disputing the fact that Dudu went down easily, our big problem is: why are UEFA taking action now? Where was UEFA in the CL semis last season, when cronaldo dived to earn that freekick, which he then converted, to kill off the tie? Where was UEFA two seasons ago, CL quarter-finals, when Gerrard took a dive to win a penalty?

    Where was UEFA or the FA when Ronaldo dived every single match he has ever played in, ever? All those 1-0 wins for United last year? Please!

    If this sets a precedent and all diving is from now on retrospectively punished using video technology, then wonderful! The Italian cheats will never win another world cup, and ronaldo will have to clean up his act or retire, and I will take UEFA’s ban of Dudu on the chin.

    The problem, however, is that this will not likely become a common thing. Will UEFA act so swiftly when a Barca, Real, or Milan player dives? I’ll believe that when I see it. Will the FA take action when Rooney dives? Don’t make me laugh, you can’t punish an English player, especially when he plays for the golden goose fc.

    We Gooners are just pissed about the double standards that exist in football. Maybe when we win the CL we will officially become a “Big Club”, and thus be immune to such chargers like the other big boys.

  • gooner-11

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    first off, you should go read “Wenger fury over UEFA´s Eduardo ´witch hunt´”.
    i would have to agree with all of Wengers quotes, no matter how biased they may be.

    retro punishment is about as ridiculous as making them replay the match. how far do you wanna go back?
    ref’s do need help, especially in the top leagues where the tempo is so high. i would like to see 2 extra refs, 1 at each goal.
    video would suck, too much time wasted.. unless they go so some system that would penalize the team who made the appeal if they were not correct to do so, or something. of coarse the wasted time would also need to be added at the end…

    was Eduardo supposed to go up to the Ref and say “i dove out of the way of that sliding keeper but he didn’t really touch me enough for a penalty, so please allow a goal kick instead”?
    I would definately dive out of the way if i had only recently come back to form from having my leg broken so badly that the bone was sticking out of it!
    Poor Dudu now has a tarnished reputation…

    It definately cannot be proved that he had “intent and a desire to cheat the referee”, which might warrant a bullshit charge of this stature.

    im actually suprised something came out of this one…
    people seriously think THIS incident should be sparking this discussion, or UEFA to action, after years of seeing gerrard and ronaldo rolling around? that blows my mind..

    …oh, and for the record (cause heaven forbid anyone gets the wrong opinion about MY silly opinion) i am specifically a Van Persie fan, not necisarily a “gooner” myself, though i must admit that it is getting harder to cheer for any other teams… so im getting there, he he

    phew, sorry kids, that was kind of a long one, shoulda been longer but i dont feel like making fun of Graham about the 3rd paragraph of ‘incident’.

  • Chelsea FC Fan

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    Video technology and 2 additional refs would enhance support for the refs and dissuade players from theatrics.

    Teams should also be limited to the number of disputes they can make using the replay technology b/c you don’t want to resort to stopping the game on every call. I only wonder how this would have played out if Chelsea could have used this in the CL semi’s. You cannot make the officiating perfect, but you can drastically reduce the margin of error.

    What do referee’s think as well? Any refs reading this article? Please leave a note.

  • Chelsea FC Fan

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    Video technology and 2 additional refs would enhance support for the refs and dissuade players from theatrics.

    Teams should also be limited to the number of disputes they can make using the replay technology b/c you don’t want to resort to stopping the game on every call. I only wonder how this would have played out if Chelsea could have used this in the CL semi’s. You cannot make the officiating perfect, but you can drastically reduce the margin of error.

    What do referee’s think as well? Any refs reading this article? Please leave a note.

  • gooner-11

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    first off, you should go read “Wenger fury over UEFA´s Eduardo ´witch hunt´”.
    i would have to agree with all of Wengers quotes, no matter how biased they may be.

    retro punishment is about as ridiculous as making them replay the match. how far do you wanna go back?
    ref’s do need help, especially in the top leagues where the tempo is so high. i would like to see 2 extra refs, 1 at each goal.
    video would suck, too much time wasted.. unless they go so some system that would penalize the team who made the appeal if they were not correct to do so, or something. of coarse the wasted time would also need to be added at the end…

    was Eduardo supposed to go up to the Ref and say “i dove out of the way of that sliding keeper but he didn’t really touch me enough for a penalty, so please allow a goal kick instead”?
    I would definately dive out of the way if i had only recently come back to form from having my leg broken so badly that the bone was sticking out of it!
    Poor Dudu now has a tarnished reputation…

    It definately cannot be proved that he had “intent and a desire to cheat the referee”, which might warrant a bullshit charge of this stature.

    im actually suprised something came out of this one…
    people seriously think THIS incident should be sparking this discussion, or UEFA to action, after years of seeing gerrard and ronaldo rolling around? that blows my mind..

    …oh, and for the record (cause heaven forbid anyone gets the wrong opinion about MY silly opinion) i am specifically a Van Persie fan, not necisarily a “gooner” myself, though i must admit that it is getting harder to cheer for any other teams… so im getting there, he he

    phew, sorry kids, that was kind of a long one, shoulda been longer but i dont feel like making fun of Graham about the 3rd paragraph of ‘incident’.

  • Patrick

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    Don’t be so disrespectful to Gooners, Graham, its not like we’re United supporters! I don’t think anyone is disputing the fact that Dudu went down easily, our big problem is: why are UEFA taking action now? Where was UEFA in the CL semis last season, when cronaldo dived to earn that freekick, which he then converted, to kill off the tie? Where was UEFA two seasons ago, CL quarter-finals, when Gerrard took a dive to win a penalty?

    Where was UEFA or the FA when Ronaldo dived every single match he has ever played in, ever? All those 1-0 wins for United last year? Please!

    If this sets a precedent and all diving is from now on retrospectively punished using video technology, then wonderful! The Italian cheats will never win another world cup, and ronaldo will have to clean up his act or retire, and I will take UEFA’s ban of Dudu on the chin.

    The problem, however, is that this will not likely become a common thing. Will UEFA act so swiftly when a Barca, Real, or Milan player dives? I’ll believe that when I see it. Will the FA take action when Rooney dives? Don’t make me laugh, you can’t punish an English player, especially when he plays for the golden goose fc.

    We Gooners are just pissed about the double standards that exist in football. Maybe when we win the CL we will officially become a “Big Club”, and thus be immune to such chargers like the other big boys.

  • Chelsea FC Fan

    0 0

    I don’t get it – why did this get reviewed and acted on by UEFA? They just announced that Eduardo will be punished for 2 games…

    WTF was UEFA reviewing when Barca played Chelsea in the semi’s?

    Unfair unfair unfair…if Barca could walk away without retro-punishment, I think everyone else should too.

    And just for the record, i’ve watched Eduardo’s replay countless times and it looks obvious to me that he had his right-foot planted to jump…and it looks as if his right foot was tapped under the keeper when he leaped up as the keeper came sliding under him.

    Regardless, it seems idiotic to punish Eduardo after the fact, considering it has no effect on the outcome of the game anyway.

    I have no idea what was accomplished by UEFA’s decision to punish Eduardo.

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